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I'm conflicted about this.

I like Telegram. It's my main messenger, it's good quality and has lots of features I really appreciate. Also pretty much everyone I want to talk with has it. I don't have to share my number with anyone and it won't be visible to everyone in a group.

When I contrast this to WhatsApp, every weird parent in my child's day care group now has my number… I don't like that at all.

On the other hand the "company" behind Telegram as a whole is extremely shady. Content moderation for public stuff? Non-existent. Also the chats aren't encrypted by default, that can be criticized these days even if it's not that relevant to me. I'm not sure how I should feel about the shady company and the moderation and encryption stuff…

I'd love Signal to have as many features as Telegram. The last time I used Signal it only worked with my number and getting my chats visible on my Mac was a huge pain. And when I accidentally deleted the app from my phone every chat was gone. Security is nice but a chat app also has to be convenient.

theverge.com/2024/8/24/2422767…


French authorities arrest Telegram’s CEO

Telegram CEO Pavel Durov was arrested in France in connection with a preliminary investigation, according to reports from French outlets.
Wes Davis (The Verge)
Als Antwort auf kaiserkiwi :kiwibird:

kaiserkiwi :kiwibird:
kaiserkiwi :kiwibird:
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Just learned you can finally use Signal with a username. You still have to hand over you phone number to Signal, but not to users anymore. That's nice.
Als Antwort auf kaiserkiwi :kiwibird:

Sven222
Sven222
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You can check XMPP. Works federated like Mastodon. Good encryption, and with conversations, monal and Dino good clients for many operating systems.
Als Antwort auf Sven222

propapanda :verified:
propapanda :verified:
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@sven222 xmpp solves little of the problems signal and matrix solve.

Encryption breaks when using multiple devices and your message history is spread between devices.

@kaiserkiwi

@Sven222 @kaiserkiwi :kiwibird:
Als Antwort auf propapanda :verified:

Sven222
Sven222
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With a compliant server and a good client, this is not true. Always people tell this, cause 10 years ago XMPP was problematic. With MAM and carbons on the server and OMEMO (same encryption like signal) non of what you have written is true.
Als Antwort auf Sven222

kaiserkiwi :kiwibird:
kaiserkiwi :kiwibird:
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@sven222 And most importantly: Pretty much no users. 😅

The best messenger/protocol is worthless if nobody I know uses it. And I'm too old to chose my friends by messenger.

@Sven222
Als Antwort auf kaiserkiwi :kiwibird:

Sven222
Sven222
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for sure, but that is, why we have to advertise free options. Otherwise nobody will use them, like the fediverse. So even if we only have one contact ona free messenger or sociale network, we have to go one, that we have one day two or three or more contacts.
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